How two dutches per race can seriously improve your greyhound profit
October 4th, 2024 at 08:49pm
I’m particularly excited to bring you today’s video. It is the culmination of a couple months of testing and adjusting and refining settings and testing again until it reached the point where I was happy that I had something really worth sharing.
Today I take a look at how the Double Dutch 2 Greyhound bot can give you two dutches per greyhound race and be reliably profitable. I demonstrate a method which has returned 18 profitable days in the last 21 days of racing.
The method in this video works well for Australia and New Zealand but not for the UK. I’m working on other approaches in the Double Dutch 2 Greyhound bot which are suitable for the UK, and hopefully I’ll have something worth sharing with you on that front soon.
Samuel
Entry Filed under: Adventures In Betting
18 Comments Add your own
1. dougmac | October 4th, 2024 at 10:01 pm
Excellent video Samuel.Will seriously consider adding to my armoury.
2. dougmac | October 6th, 2024 at 7:16 pm
Started using today with a somewhat more aggressive approach. Hit 4 losing races in a row and saw a huge $249 outlay on my next race. Fortunately won but anyone thinking of increasing the target BEWARE;stakes can really explode after a losing run.
3. Samuel | October 6th, 2024 at 8:10 pm
Yes that is a fair point Doug. I’m comfortable with a 10c initial target and do occasionally see the stake grow a long way from that after a few losses, but what I generally see there is that the stakes increase fastest if there’s an odds-on favourite involved and this tends to end in a win before hitting stop loss.
It’s the slower growth of stakes when a number of losses with favourites closer to $3 that I find is more likely to hit a stop loss.
4. dougmac | October 6th, 2024 at 8:42 pm
Agree Samuel;I was not backing under $2.00 which I have now changed to $1.7 . Cost a couple of winners which would have broken the losing run.
5. jbagan1979@outlook.com | October 11th, 2024 at 11:11 pm
Hi Samuel , been following you for a while now and i like the way you do things and been following a few of your stratagies
on the DD2 dogs im wondering if you can look at this and explain why these amounts would have been set. i will send you a screen shot but waht happened was this
50p target bot was doing okay few pounds up on both DD1 and DD2 , Cycle loss count was at 0-0 so no issues with raised stakes ,target was 0.54p DD1 and same 0.54p DD2 SO NO BIG DRAMAS THERE .
But this is what happened
DD2 backed fav @ 1.85 -£1.41
DD2 backed 2nd fav @ 4.3- £0.63
then
DD1 BACKED FAV @1.84 -£53.00
DD1 BACKED 2 FAV @4.3 – £23.66
DD1 BACKED ANOTHER DOG @4.99 -£19.79
ALMOST £100 ! FAV did win but dont understyand why it went like this, any ideas please
james
6. crafty | October 12th, 2024 at 12:08 am
Hi Samuel,
I picked up DD via your link…(Hope it worked for you)
I look forward to some results similar to yours.
Keep up the good work.
Tony
7. Samuel | October 12th, 2024 at 9:54 am
Hi James,
Thanks for your comment and email.
I’ve replied to your email in a bit more detail, but in short, part of the story here is that adding the third dog at a price not much higher than the second dog has narrowed the margin of the dutch considerably.
The other and probably more important part of the story is that at first glance it looks like the bot bet almost double what it needed to in order to meet the profit target, however a closer look shows that the prices of some of those dogs were falling at the time, while another was increasing. The bot, with the tick offset function in use, calculates the required stakes at prices slightly lower than what it available, which can result in a bigger bet than needed but also helps to ensure all of your selections get matched and you don’t get left with a dutch where one or more selections are missing. A quick calculation shows if the bot calculated on lower prices than what was available, it could have been calculating correctly to meet the target at lower prices.
Also comparing your prices to the prices my bot got for that race, I can see there was a fairly significant amount of fluctuation in prices around that time.
8. Samuel | October 12th, 2024 at 9:55 am
Hi Tony,
Thanks! Hope it works well for you.
9. dougmac | October 13th, 2024 at 11:16 am
Interested in James experience re staking;I had another “traumatic” stake of $324 to win about $10 a few days ago; to try and prevent this I split the Cycles into 1. 5 to 7 runners and 2. 8 runners. Also reduced Tick
Offset to one.On a positive note after my first 7 days using this Bot I am in profit $107. I have messed about with the settings but have reverted to Samuels originals with the exception that Max price is $8.
Thanks again Samuel for the video. Doug
10. crafty | October 14th, 2024 at 1:05 am
Good to see that you came out on top there Doug.
I have been dabbling with the bots for quite some time and can assure you that I have had some shocks along the way which did not end up as well !
I have been running the DD with settings close to Samuels for only a few days hoping to profit just $5 per day and have exceeded this using a target of only 7c. This seems tiny but has not yet subjected me to any trauma.
Regards
Tony
11. Samuel | October 14th, 2024 at 8:13 am
Hi Doug,
That’s an interesting idea of tightening the odds range. Based on results I’ve seen, not many dogs paying $8+ end up winning so that’s a good way of reducing the outlay without reducing the risk.
Tick offset at 1 is probably fine as the bot is only working on races with at least $5000 matched so there shouldn’t be too many occasions where it is hard to get matched. The take SP option which I also have set is a useful safety measure to ensure you get matched even if an SP match might not result in a profit from a dutch.
Tony, good to hear you’re turning a profit. I think we’ve all had some nasty shocks over time with bots so it’s nice to find ways which seem to be fairly consistent at producing good results.
12. dougmac | October 18th, 2024 at 8:28 am
WOW; Suspect we all suffered a significant loss yesterday [17/10] as longshots seemed to win everywhere.
I was unfortunately on a 50cent target and wiped all my profits from inception ie;10 days.
Time to reset to lower my expectations and take the lesson that in the gambling world anything can happen.
13. Samuel | October 18th, 2024 at 5:16 pm
Hi Doug. I had a positive day yesterday, but started today off on a negative start which won’t be fully recovered today, so I expect to finish today on a down note.
14. Heff | November 10th, 2024 at 5:41 pm
Hi. Samuel Love your work. And everyones comments. Helps a mug punter like me. Heff
15. Samuel | November 10th, 2024 at 7:10 pm
Thanks Heff. Very nice of you to say.
16. crafty | November 13th, 2024 at 1:23 pm
Hi Samuel,
What are your up to date stats on this plan please?
Thanks
Tony
17. Samuel | November 27th, 2024 at 11:43 pm
Hi Tony,
I don’t know, sorry. I’ve been focused on other systems and haven’t been running this one lately. It’s more than a tad frustrating that it performed well in testing over a period of time before making a video about it, and then turned quite negative shortly after. I’ll have to go back to the drawing board on this one I think, or at least revise the strategy. Not sure when that will be though.
18. crafty | November 28th, 2024 at 11:37 am
Thank you…I had the same result.
Keep battling on.
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